Engineer or not Engineer?

Today I was searching on Google some documents for my work and the fortune (??) has given me the chance to see an old document appeared on TheRegister 2 years ago. The title is "Microsoft MCSEs are bogus boffins, say Canadian engineers".

After reading it, I've decided to take in evidence again the article because its argument was the source of a discussion on my work team some times ago.

In summary, the article says that the professional engineers association in Canada is dismayed that Microsoft Certified System Engineers (MCSEs) are calling themselves "engineers".

In Canada (and I think in all over the world) only licensed professionals (that have taken an official course of study of 5 years on an Engineering University) can call themselves engineers, not people who have an IT certification with 5 exams (like MCSE). Unfortunately, expecially if you can go to public IT events, there are lots of MCSE certificate holders that take advantage of their status by saying that they are "an engineer".

This is terrible incorrect... Engineer is a global brand, an official title recognized on all the world for a certain course of study, there's an official Engineering Order that protects the title, so the title must be respected and not used only for "the sound of the words".

Unfortunately, you can see lots of MCSEs that, on their card presentation, signs them as "engineer". This is an inappropriate title and an incorrect way to do.

I read on the article that Microsoft planned to modify the name of the MCSE certification after the Canadian Engineering Order segnalation, but now I can see that nothing has done. What could be happen if all the Engineering Orders sent segnalation to Microsoft?

However, I'm an "official Engineer", I've taken a regular course of study of 5 years on Computer Engineering at the Politecnic of Turin, personally I've never against the MCSE certification name, but seeing that some MCSEs call themself "engineers" hurst me a bit!

I know that maybe an MCSE is more expert than me on certain products, but he's not an Engineer, it's an IT certificate people. I hope a clarification about it could be done in the future...

Print | posted on Saturday, September 18, 2004 10:35 AM

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I have neither a 5 year degree nor a Certification, yet I develop enterprise software for the top mortgage software house with a variety of languages. All I've got is 12+ years experience and the title Senior Software Engineer.

What would you suggest I tell my employers to change my title to? What would be more PC?
Left by Rev on Sep 18, 2004 10:20 AM

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I think the core of the discussion is what the Canadian Order wants to say: do not use the title "Engineer" as your official degree. On your company you are surely a Senior Software Engineer, you can be the best programmer of the world, but if you are PC you can't say out of your company that you're an "Engineer".
Left by Stefano Demiliani on Sep 18, 2004 10:36 AM

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Choo-choo Charlie was an engineer, Choo-choo Charlie was his name we hear, he had an engine and he sure had fun, he used Good n Plenty candy to make his train run.

ooops Sorry Charlie did not go to Polytecnic.

I think we should alert Ovaltine of this act of maleficence

I WANT MY OVALTINE!!


Left by DotNetDoc on Sep 18, 2004 3:37 PM

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Rev: What's wrong with senior software developer?
Left by Scott Allen on Sep 19, 2004 4:56 PM

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